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Jul 15, 2001, 8:03pm

Yes Marcus, the entire GZ area has been preserved in its entirety and in its
original vandalised eyesore state in a world of its own. The GZ restoration
project was not completely about restoring historic buildings intact but
about making it a pleasant environment for newbies to explore without being
assailed by garbage like "i was here" or " visit my place" A compromise
needed to be reached between asthetics and history and with GZ preserved
as it was, the AWHS came close to finding a solution.

But the AWHS was not just about GZ restoration. It had many many builds that
where bought to ppls attention that otherwise may have been forgotten, as
with the very history of aw itself. It needs to be a continuing effort by
some one that shows respect for the future as well as the past.


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Jul 15, 2001, 8:31pm

mmmmm i dont think u get it.....new to aw are you?

what ARE you talking about when you mention "controls?" ANYONE can place
an object on uncovered ground. The point to the restoration project was to
delete the garbage and cover the ground so that the vandalism can not
reoccur.

And yes.... there are teleport sites for the ppl that want to place objects
for the purpose of advertising, That is not the point i was trying to make.

Originally the AWHS was a team of volunteers, try reading about it.

http://www.awcommunity.org/awhs/




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Jul 15, 2001, 9:07pm

You have missed the point entirely
I repeat http://www.awcommunity.org/awhs/

*it is better to be quiet and let ppl think you are a fool, than to open
your mouth and remove all doubt*


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Jul 15, 2001, 9:35pm

Did you take the time to read about the AWHS? why not? The reason I am
miffed is because you posted without taking the time to find out what the
AWHS is or what the GZ project was all about or even reading my post
properly.

so...again I will explain

My post was not about putting up teleports to replace the ones removed from
GZ to benefit the vandals that have placed them there. If it was that simple
then it would be easy. GZ environs is already covered with litter and
garbage from years of vandals and it needs to be covered to prevent more
being placed there. The signs and pictures also need to be reported for
removal.

The AWHS is about restoring the buildings and removing the garbage, not
only at GZ but all over aw. It is also about bringing attention to the
history in aw and the wonderful builders that did beautiful builds with a
very limited object path.

Finding some one to organise and maintain AWHS and the volunteers in it, is
not about building some teleports, although that has ALREADY been done, as I
have previously pointed out.

As I have also pointed out previously, it is not wholly about restoring
historic buildings but about bringing an aesthetic appeal to a chaotic mess
without losing the history of aw gz.

And the GZ restoration project was only one aspect of what the AWHS did.
Somebody that can whack up some teleports wont fill the bill




----- Original Message -----
From: "m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com>

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Jul 15, 2001, 9:42pm

yah nornny :o)) I heard some one else was in charge, he's not? woohoo
there is hope yet:o))

Nornny, why can't you? Why can't some one? I'm sure Mauz, Tyrell and any of
the other ppl would help out as advisors , even if they can't do the leg
work

Your right, it would be a huge shame, SOMEONE is needed


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Jul 15, 2001, 9:45pm

*blinks* Marcus, i did already, read the post you replied to
*sheesh*


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Jul 15, 2001, 10:47pm

Marcus?????????

GZ environs... meaning the area immediately surrounding GZ, not exempting
the area covered by the "no building within" limit, but the WHOLE area out
to 50x50x50x50

i have already said - whats all this about control????????????? ANYONE can
build an object if the ground is not covered and it is outside the no build
radius.
Hundreds of ppl have and it needs to be reported for removal, no one needs
to be given permission to build an object? thats is why the call it
vandalism?

Marcus, i seem to recall you having informed before that there is a process
to abide by if you want objects removed. Its called reporting it to the GET.


The AWHS is about restoring the buildings and removing the garbage, not
only at GZ but all over aw read that again ***ALL over aw***. It is
NOT about building teleport yards for vandals that want to build garbage
near GZ, repeat, it is about having the garbage removed and restoration.

*gives up*

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Jul 16, 2001, 2:32am

Tyrell, you have my vote, can i stuff the ballot boxes??

votes once, twice.....keeps voting


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couldnt agree more!!!! lets clean up the horse shit before the smells turns
off new customers

Jul 18, 2001, 1:19am

Tyrell has already stated his interest in being the head of a New Improved
AWHS...

personally i would support his nomination and help out to the best of my
ability :o)) how about a meeting in AWCC at a date and coords to be
posted?


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Jul 18, 2001, 10:19pm

I don't agree with EITHER Goober King or Brant strictly, although aspects of
both have quality.

I would like to comment though, that while he states....", for which Goober
King and the citizens who support his letter clamour ceaselessly. If
everyone would work to make the community better instead of petitioning
Activeworlds for what it is already attempting to do, then perhaps the
Universe would be a better place."
I feel that Goober King does a LOT for the AWCommunity and didn't deserve
that little dig.

Another thing.... because AWld crew where mostly visible to us through the
more unique browser we have in AW, then we feel a right to criticise their
business / management skills. mmmm Gee that is REALLY going to get us
far.

We are mostly Windows users. Most of us complain about Microsoft. Would
Microsoft listen to us if we complained that copy / paste was not supported
in most error messages? LOL.... if you got an answer laughing in your face
you would be one of the lucky ones

I like Eeps suggestion of advertising, perhaps this needs to be suggested
directly? Instead of telling them what they are doing wrong, can't we tell
them what they are doing right and suggest more ideas? Cant condemn AWld if
they don't read these NGs I wouldn't either if I copped the abuse that
ppl dish out to them.

I would also stop the community support I had been offering if I got my head
bitten off everytime I tried too.

Jul 19, 2001, 10:11pm

mmm just a suggestion.... but can we make HTML posts against charter? That
may slow down the flame attacks on the html posters because it would be a
simple matter of "Hey, thats against the charter" and we wouldnt get the
dweebs that argue " i can if i want!"

It's pretty obvious that the greater majority does not like HTML.....
Factor, you held a vote to see if we wanted Eep removed and the majority
voted. How about a vote on a change in the Charter to disallow HTML?


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Jul 20, 2001, 10:50pm

proof of what i say..... some ppl just have to argue against the PERSON and
not the topic.

Chuck your personal problems are your own, not mine, and they dont belong
in the newsgroups

regardless of who i happen to know in real life.


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Jul 20, 2001, 10:36pm

Your darn right Nornny, has everyone noticed how just a few ppl always take
every thread and turn it into a flame war because of their need to argue
against certain ppl and not the topic?

if they dont happen to like a person then they must dispute what ever the
person says, regardless of whether it makes them look like an idiot for
arguing against something that is reasonable

It dosent matter what a person may post, light hearted or serious, flame or
complimentary, these few ppl have to ruin the thread.

It is THESE ppl that ruin the newsgroups by disputing ppls rights to have an
opinion, not Eep and his "forthright" comments that are usually true,
although not acceptable for the ppl who think that name calling is going to
hurt their widdle eyes.

[View Quote] I think there should be something that stops those sly
and chicken people who cause a ruckus subtly and within the rules

Aug 7, 2001, 8:51pm

[View Quote] > Top 10 Annoying Telegrams
> from people that I've never even heard of
>
> 1. hi / hello / hey
> (I just know this could be the start of a beautiful relationship...)
>
> 2. hello? Are you there??? Why are you ignoring my telegrams?
> What did I ever do to you... etc etc
>
> 3. Can I ask you a question?
> (You just did, pal.)
>
> 4. can I join you ?
> (Like #3: why not just state your business in the first tele?)
>
> 5. I'm cleaning up my contact list, reply if you like to stay on
>
> 6. WHO ARE YOU??? / Why are you on my contacts?
>
> 7. Hey will u build in my town? / can i build in ur world???????
>
> 8. i am a hacker could you please send me your hacked aw browser
>
> 9. Happy Thanksgiving / Happy Mothers Day /
> whatever that doesn't really concern me
>
> 10. Anything with "Please pass this on".
>
> --
> Mauz
> http://mauz.tnlc.com/
>
More Annoying Telegrams
from people that I've never even heard of

11. I cant find anywhere in aw to build.

12. Hi, Do you remember me? I've changed my name.

13. Can you come to my world and see if this avatar loads for you?

14. Come see my build.

15. I want to talk to you......can you be online at 6pm my time?

16. Whats a good water/sand/rock texture?

17. Ive lost my teleport list, do you know where my house is?

18. Theres a meeting tonight at 10pm vrt. Important that you attend ( and i
just logged on and its 11 pm)

19.WHY CAN'T I BUILD!!!!!!

20.I just copied your house with a bot and now the warp into the swimming
pool always teleports me to your place. Why are you doing this to me?

Aug 7, 2001, 9:33pm

> 27. "Can I have your citïzenship?"


28. Thanks for your email. Can i be a teacher now? I know everything about
the awbrowser and i am a good teacher. BTW whats VRT ?


29. My BF just dumped me and i am going to kill myself


30. We made up...... come to the wedding and pass this on!

Aug 8, 2001, 8:07pm

Gawd Lara, you know how to express it....all thats left to say is....

Sounds good to me :o)

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Aug 10, 2001, 6:24pm

I've not said a word about Custom Avatars because i personally ( prepares
for the flames) think they are a waste of bandwidth.

One things that would errode some of the problems that have been talked
about here would be to have "SEMI" custom avatars. Instead of ppl uploading
their own seqs , textures etc .... why cant there be a section of the
browser for you to build one from pre loaded ones?

For instance.... brown female long hair? short male blonde hair? male
bearded face? female face with glasses? red long dress? green short dress?

The choices could be limited or extensive

check the choices and build a avatar :o)

just a thought

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Aug 14, 2001, 7:46pm

Don't you need caretaker to see what rights some one is wearing? mmm? which
would imply that the information was gained in a world where the person has
caretaker rights.


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Aug 18, 2001, 10:45pm

Just a warning ppl. When chatting with friends and confidantes be aware that
if they log their chat text it could come back to haunt you if ever that
person is hacked.

You know that you have the latest in virus detection but does the person
that you have just shared your password with? The person that you have
shared an "intimate chat" with? The person that you just told about how
upset you where about your dog dying? The person that you just trusted with
your phone number?

PKs can do very little about hackers and trojens or about your chat logs
being published on other sites

Aug 26, 2001, 10:08pm

Is that Monday as in tomorrow vrt? or next week? wouldnt have a clue when
Labour Day is, ours is in October.

5 pm VRT is 4:30 am Tuesday morning here so if ya wanna wake me up by giving
two rings on the phone by my bed 61 8 82506811, ( i wont pick it up = wont
cost money for call) i will try to wake up enough to be there :o)


> since
especially
> would

Sep 1, 2001, 12:47am

LOL figure it out... he has been proven wrong again and he cant let it
appear as if he is beaten, so he will continue to argue that black is white
until we all just give up and let him suffer his delusions in peace...... i
say lets do it NOW before we all need the valium

Flagg said it best <This will be my last post on this issue > lets
follow suit


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Aug 30, 2001, 9:08pm

EXCEPT that none of you are correct on the 13th question. kellee resides in
South Australia.....about 800 miles from the hole state of Victoria where
Just In lives.
I mean sheesh Victoria? they dont even play decent Football, although
they are good to dump our unwanted Grand Prix on........ wouldnt wanna live
there if ya PAID me

-------------

> 13) kellee resides in what country in RL?
>
> All three: Australia w/ Just In.
>
> Very good. Another point.
>

Aug 30, 2001, 9:31pm

hehehe yeah i personally liked the one where "they" said i was 14. Dont
mind losing a few years off my age but thats going a few too far!


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Dec 12, 2001, 8:21pm

AW Teen got their own newsgroup??????????????
interesting
*wonders why some things are possible some of the time and for certain ppl*

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Dec 17, 2001, 11:31pm

I agree with all of it, awcommunity is going to hell in a
handbasket.....point is.....what do we do about it? what CAN we do about
it?

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Dec 25, 2001, 11:24pm

Every community has a grumpy old man that chases the kids away from his
fruit trees, and the lovely lady that knits outfits for orphans, teachers,
policemen, politicians,shopkeepers, families, single ppl and teenagers that
just like simply hanging around the local park playing ball games. Some
families have problems, some have the white picket fence and some struggle
on a low wage with a ton of kids. The group of teenagers that vandalised the
train station on friday night are chastised but not jailed. The ppl that
commit serious crimes are removed from the community.

It's when the community loses more than just the criminals that it loses its
diversity and charm.

Personally i felt that AW's grumpy old man was not guilty of any thing other
than chasing cheeky kids out of his orchard.



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Dec 28, 2001, 4:58am

Never said it did, what i WAS saying was .... telling other ppl how to
tend their orchards is pretty harmless and not enough to come under the
heading " serious crime - lets remove him from the community".
You can ignore any advice, good or bad, ya know. I got "pounced" on by Eep
a few times...... Once was when i pounced him first ( he had to retaliate,
otherwise it would have been bad for his image) and the other time i proved
him wrong in telegrams afterwards and actually received a *small* apology.
So what?.... my skin is still intact and if it wasnt..... then there is MUTE

He was like JR Ewing outta Dallas...... everyone hated him, but when they
tried to kill him off, no one watched Dallas anymore


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Dec 21, 2001, 6:33pm

Too right!!! they give away cars for a 300 game ( bowled in a league) in
one bowling centre i used to bowl in. So it IS wow!!!

good on ya :o))


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Jan 5, 2002, 10:51pm

Whatever other complaints ppl have, the biggest one seems to be the price
increase, specially for the younger users without credit cards. So what
about a rewards scheme? For every NEW citizen that signs up for 6 months or
more on a current users recommendation, that user gets a FREE month?? Just a
thought, but it would give the younger members a chance to stay with us and
it would hopefully generate a lot of new users as ppl plumb the other chat
rooms and newsgroups for potential customers.

It also would help the non American users too, as their increase will price
AW completely out of reason....IE: the Australian dollar is worth approx 51
cents american .... $20 a week is 2/5ths of my mortgage repayment, and NOT a
cup of coffee and a donut.

heheh could change it to AmericanWorlds....wont have to change the
initials

Jan 9, 2002, 3:22am

Yes...Alpha World now qualifies for the term- mongrel. The cruel ppl called
it that before, now even I, a great lover of AW ( I wouldnt build elsewhere)
call it the biggest mongrel out. Textures have been changed on old builds.
Textures have been corrupted so that windows now appear where doors used to
be . New objects render old objects obsolete, the whole world is just a
hodge podge of mess....


WHY couldnt they just create a new world for the new objects as Factor said
they planned? I would rather see Alpha dead and buried than this mutilation
of its twitching corpse. It is literally a kick in the teeth for all the
builders that spent years building in AW. *sigh* *crying for a dear, dead
friend*

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