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Jan 25, 2001, 10:35pm

Get used to it :)

LilAlpha


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Jan 25, 2001, 10:58pm

LOL

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Jan 25, 2001, 10:39pm

Never have...

LilAlpha Phalpha
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Mar 1, 2001, 11:29pm

Someone finially has the same ideas about the NG's as me, what an
improvement!!!!


LilAlpha




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Apr 23, 2001, 9:36pm

I reckon it be up north, where them dern yankees live...

LilAlpha



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Jul 17, 2001, 6:24pm

In Response to ALL posts in this string:

Have you every thought about skipping posts with HTML in them? If it takes
you 20 min to decypher it then don't read it, ignore it an move on!
Delete it if you want to...


LilAlpha Phalpha

Jul 17, 2001, 6:09pm

I belive the *S* means Smile, like a gesture. And to spell it out: *S* = :)

Lilalpha Phalpha



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Jul 17, 2001, 6:02pm

Do you guys ever give it a break? How about you just go back to the shell
you crawled out of and just let kellee lodge a harmless little protest
(which just might be one of the reasons they invented the newsgroups), which
has nothing to do with you.

If only some people were complex-minded enough to understand that...


LilAlpha Phalpha
Fed up AW Citizen




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Jul 17, 2001, 4:42pm

Hi,
In case you haven't been informed there is a Cy Fourm where you can go
and check up on all the latest Cy news, and dates, and mabey even see a
little of the Cy Committee in action :) You will have to regester a
password, but that is free, so you can go and post your suggestions for us.

Thanks,


LilAlpha Phalpha
Cy Awards Committee

Aug 8, 2001, 1:34pm

My Turn!


36. My old name was: <name here>. This is my new name... tell others my new
name, thanks!


37. PARTY AT MY WORLD, EVERYBODY'S INVITED!


38. u still allive?


39. seen what i done on my house?


40. What's the new buildings down the road?


42. Vote for me for <such and such>


43. Good Bye i am being banned from AW soon FOREVER!!!



LilAlpha Phalpha

Aug 7, 2001, 5:56am

Hi,

I have noticed that alot of people complain about the Cy Awards being a
popularity contest, becuase of the public voting, so i want to take a poll
over it.

This may not affect the Cy Awards Voting system at all, i am just interested
in knowing.


Poll:
Do you think the Cy Awards Voting System should be public, or should it be
an internal judging system?






LilAlpha Phalpha
Cy Awards Public Relations

Aug 7, 2001, 6:10pm

accually Cy Awards is seperate from AWC, therefore it would have no formal
represenative to the cy awards under it's charter.

What i am attempting to do here however is open up communication between the
Community, and the Cy Awards Committee, and act at the represenative for
both groups.

LilAlpha Phalph
Cy Awards Public Relations
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Aug 8, 2001, 2:40pm

This one may seem similiar to the one last time but Bit asked me to run
this....
And if you read this, everybody please tell us how you feel...


Poll:
Do you think the Cy Awards are just a large Popularity contest, or do you
think that the voting system is fair....




LilAlpha Phalpha
Cy Awards Public Relations

Aug 8, 2001, 2:42pm

Cancel this, dont reply i have something else...



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Jan 5, 2002, 7:16am

Ummm last time i looked at OW, which was a few hours ago, thier cit prices
were $19.95US and thier world prices were exactly the same.... Did you check
to make sure what you were posting is true?

LilAlpha Phalpha


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Jan 5, 2002, 7:34am

World prices exactly the same as AW that is ;)


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Jan 5, 2002, 7:03pm

Prices look the same to me :) http://www.outerworlds.com/worlds/


Lil

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Jan 2, 2002, 10:04pm

My opinion is to trust in AWCOM in this matter becuase they have the figures
and we don't. If in a few months they discover they are wrong they might
lower the prices instead of shutting down due to lack of user growth(and
more income.) I am no expert in financial matters and I am only in the 9th
grade. Sure AW will probably lose alot of it's valuable citizens over this,
but thats thier problem right? If they WANT to keep thier current citizens
AND get new ones, they WILL lower thier prices if this dosent work out. IF
they don't it could be the end of it anyways. So I believe it is best to
leave this up to the people at AWCOM who know what they are talking about,
who have all the facts, and are trying to save thier own jobs, all the while
trying to keep us happy. I think we're just making it worse by bickering of
this, i would think it would be a tough thing to balance for them... If they
run out of money...there is no more AW for us, If we all leave due to
excessive prices, then they run outof money anyways. Let them make thier own
mistakes and learn from them, after all it's also thier future they are
dealing with not just ours. Grow up people, you can't have everything.

LilAlpha Phalpha

Jan 3, 2002, 2:46am

For all of us who are renewing, we dont know it will be 9.50 a month. The
prices for us could and possibly will be cheaper. However if worse comes to
worse I plan to emmigrate to Outerworlds and start over there.

I feel sory for people like Comit, who have put so much work into AW and now
has to leave. All the rest of us can hope for is that our renewal prices
will be cheaper. If not i want all of you who can afford to stay to keep the
community together untill i get a job...

LilAlpha Phalpha

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Jan 4, 2002, 6:54am

Dear AW Community,
Due to circumstances beyond my control (we all know what thoes are) I
will be leaving aw -permanently- when my citizenship expires on the 20th of
June. I do not believe these prices changes are fair, although i can see
why they are needed. I was hoping the prices for currently regestered
citizens would be lower, but the chances of that are slim. I really with
there were some way around this, but there isnt... It just dosen't seem
real. I cannot afford the new prices as my parents are paying for my
citizenship currently and they won't pay $114 a year.

I have been an active citizen of AW, and an active member of the
community for 6 years this comming March. I have made lots of friends,
built many things, and I did many things here I could never dream of doing
in real life. I have learned to program here with the help of friends. I
have made objects, and avatars. I have almost lived a life in AW. I am a
member of the Cy Comittee, the AWComReg, and a former member of the AWEC. I
put many hours into all of them. I will continue to serve the community
untill July 20, 2001 at 8:29PM in which my citizenship expires. I hope
everything i have worked at in ActiveWorlds for the past 6 years wasn't in
vein.

It's just a shame that i have to leave it all behind, there were so many
things i hadn't done yet...

So, unless things change you can consider this my first farewell (I'll
prolly have another one in June :) ) It's been a great 6 years!

For all of you who are staying, and for thoes who have to leave, Good luck
to all of you, and godspeed.


LilAlpha Phalpha

Jan 3, 2002, 6:05am

Yes, facter enlightened a few of us that this is all part of a larger plan
that "we should enjoy" if AW lasts long enough to see it through. For all of
you complaining, if you love AW enough money is no object, however if you
think it is to much then leave, theres no compromise. Apparently this has
been in planning for a few months, since Facter knows about it. He didn't
give us any details, but I hope it works whatever it is. Rick has saved AW
before and hes gonna do it again (hopefully).

For all you AWCOM folks and the entire AW Community, good luck and godspeed!

LilAlpha Phalpha

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Jan 4, 2002, 5:02am

I am including a copy of this discussion we had with facter




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Goober King: Trust me, I'll be doing much pondering over this and scheming
as well :)
SW Comit: are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Syntax: SW Comit: Whilie Cyotes us
Syntax: omg that's going on the website as your quote
Goober King: I think so Brain, but burlap chaffs me so...
SW Comit: ^_^
Syntax: O_O
LilAlpha Phalpha: EA
SW Comit: I'm asking Duskbat to join. An insider him
SW Comit: *silence*
Syntax: I'm asking Teddy Man Soft to join. An insider him.
Facter: oh yeah, invite me to join then ignore me chris =P
SW Chris: y
Goober King: Guess I'll be staying a bit longer.... hay Facter :)
SW Comit: ^_^
Syntax: lol hi Fac
SW Chris: oh there you are.
Facter: aye guys
SW Chris: Sorry for missing your join request. :\
SW Comit: lol chris you always do that
LilAlpha Phalpha: hi facter
Facter: its okay, just giving you shit :)
Goober King: hehe
Facter: ok
SW Chris: I was rereading my Talking Points column.
Syntax: yea he always does that
Facter: i cant relaly comment on this muchin all honesty :)
SW Chris: That is my one and only flaw. ^_^
LilAlpha Phalpha: <cough>
Syntax: lol "hub-bub"
Facter: reading their statement well
SW Chris: I think you knew about it several months ago. :) But we were
talking about the possibility of appealing to another corporation to buy AWC
out.
SW Chris: like Sony or AOL/Time Warner.
Facter: I'd say that what is written there, isnt an excuse, and is probably
the truth - i mean, rick signed it, and I no matter what, I have never, ever
known Rick to be a deceptive man - its not in him
SW Comit: Time Warner would be interested?
SW Chris: I believe every word he said.
SW Comit: AOL I can see, they buy a lot of stuff
SW Chris: They are a media company... *shrug*
Facter: yeah, so do I
SW Chris: He's just not a businessman, it seems.
Goober King: I don't think any of us here is in doubt of him... It's just
that do they really need to go that high?
Goober King: Do they truly understand the ramifications of all this?
Facter: I know, that there is more to the story..i actualyl know a shitload
of stuff that you guys dont, company stuff..i know some plans etc etc that
they have in the works, and I can also see how this fits in with some of
those plans
SW Chris: Well those plans won't work if Ol' George is still a rulin from
England. :)
SW Chris: (see community newsgroup for an explaination) *shrug*
Goober King: The letter made it sound like Rick was just expecting the rest
of the community to go along with this scheme...
LilAlpha Phalpha: LOL
SW Chris: I think he was hoping against hope that most people would
understand.
Facter: ricks a fukin great guy, honestly - if he thinks he's doing the
right thing, then that is what he in his heart believes - I had the
opportunity to get to know him in person, and all I know is that the man is
a truely good soul
SW Comit: hmm I can't see why they need the sharp revenue change, are they
planning on hiring 20 programmers or something?
Facter: goober
SW Chris: Lara's not happy that's for sure.
Facter: I dont think he's expecting anything
SW Chris: tortured soul as well. :\
Facter: and I'm damn sure, that he knew that there were going to be alot of
unhappy people
Goober King: Lots of people aren't happy, Chris
SW Chris: What would dumping the 3d homepages program and selling excess
bandwidth do to help things?
Facter: oh man, how would you feel having to do something like this,
seriously ?
Goober King: Frankly, I would have at least given everyone a bit more notice
that one whole day :P
Facter: have any of you guys looked at the economy lately? im amazed AW
didnt fold along with the rest of the internet companies in the past year
SW Chris: Read the Talking Points article. :)
Facter: notice for what though goober?
Facter: if they are going to do it,t hey are going to do it - what
difference is one day, a week, or a month going to do?
Facter: you all have cits, im sure you have time left on them
SW Chris: Looking at it from Rick's perspective, yeah Facter you're right.
Facter: look
Facter: im not taking sides here
SW Comit: afaw while I read talking points
Facter: one of the hardet fukin things i did was go to work for that
company, and basically ostracise myself fromt he community
SW Chris: neither are we we hope.
Syntax: He said ostrich ^_^
SW Chris: ....
Goober King: *smacks Syn*
Syntax: lol
Syntax: Too bad Comit is afaw, he woulda laughed :-P
Facter: but ive had the unique perspective to be in on things that you guys
dont know, and am privvy to a plan they have that will, if it works,
probably end up knocking your socks out - if they survive that long..which I
guess is allt hey are trying to do n
Facter: I think its jsut a wait and see thing really
Goober King: The problem is, Facter, we've heard that line before...
Facter: so thats all I'm going to do...wait and see
Goober King: Same here
SW Chris: I'll be praying it does. But I really wish he'd explain it.
Facter: the thing is goober - it hasnt been someone you trust telling you
that line
Facter: I'd like to think you guys trust my opinion sometimes, even if I am
naive to believe so =P
Goober King: True enough... but then, Rick and JP should already be people I
can trust :P
Facter: well, you dont, and thats reality
Facter: its shame, but you dont
Syntax: I think you have some good points fac
Facter: hell, i dont trust bill gates and i still use his stupid software
SW Chris: but Facter..
Facter: what I *do* trust is you guys
SW Chris: we don't have a _choice_ =P
Goober King: I'd love to trust them to, honestly... But I just can't given
their past performance
Facter: of course you have a choice man
Facter: use AW or leave
SW Chris: not to use Microsoft's software
Facter: pay what they want, or leave
SW Chris: that's what I waws talking about. : )
Facter: let it fail, or let it live
Facter: there is always a choice, its jsut not always the choice YOU want
SW Chris: touche
Goober King: I guess real life had to intrude on the virtual one at some
point *smirk*
Facter: at some stage you guys will have to choose to go, or stay
SW Chris: interesting take on that situation.
Facter: yeh, it sucks when that happens
Syntax: bah
Syntax: But what if AW goes go belly-up?
SW Chris: I for one will hang on till it's not worth it anymore.
Facter: fuck, we've stuck with it this long
Syntax: What will I do with this 3 years of work?
Goober King: Then we move on, Syn
Facter: if it goes belly up?
SW Chris: And after that I'll keep a close eye on what AWC is doing.
Syntax: What will i do with all this work?
Facter: hmmm
Syntax: 400k+ of objects built?
Goober King: Remember it
LilAlpha Phalpha: Facter if it goes "belly up" will the other universes go
down too?
SW Chris: would uniservers still work if there's no company left to pay dues
to?
Goober King: They certainly wouldn't develop anymore
Facter: well, seriously...if it went belly up financially? rick and JP would
still own it. It wouldnt disappear I dont tihnk..they could fire everyone at
the office,a dn keep it running probably
Goober King: You think OW or City4All has any programmers of Roland's
caliber? :P
SW Chris: but it'd be a nice museum piece. Have your own personal uniserver
just to preserve this city.
Facter: it jsut would enver,e ver grow, and it would soon, ina year or two,
be a meuseum and obsolete
Facter: goober
Facter: theres a difgference - what the hell do they need bloody programmers
for ? they buy the software from aw ?
LilAlpha Phalpha: would need a uniserver, mabey just a galaxy
Facter: then go to another universe guys
Facter: there are plenty out there, ow is a fun place
Facter: as for the stuff here ?
SW Chris: Well we're rootin for AW.
Goober King: That's what I mean, Fac... if AW stops, they take all the other
universes with it
Facter: Get a world, back up the work you did in here, and re-bot it in a
different universe with the same object path
Facter: eh
Facter: goober
SW Chris: :\
SW Chris: We can't afford a p500
Syntax: lol
Goober King: We'll be stuck in 3.2 for eternity
LilAlpha Phalpha: LOL
Syntax: yea this city is 800 x 600 coords
Facter: I hav been to universes that have never been paid for, lets not be
naive here
SW Comit: back
SW Comit: 500x850+ for the hundreth time >_<
SW Chris: ah, he catches on.
LilAlpha Phalpha: LOL
Syntax: Go up and read my funny comment, COmit :-P
SW Chris: It is a last-ditch option though.
SW Comit: I did
Syntax: ^_^
Goober King: I know that... But AW is the only one actually *developing* the
software... if AW goes stagnant, so will all the other Universes
SW Chris: only should the community itself cease to exist.
Facter: yes?
Facter: of course?
SW Comit: as for the UniverseX, David16 runs it
Facter: I dont see the argument here ?
SW Comit: with dennis and magical
SW Chris: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Facter: so it goes belly up? no more AW ?
Facter: let me ask you something
Facter: so what ?
SW Chris: to clarify on Goober's part... no more new tech from AW.
Syntax: ah well..
Syntax: I'll just pay for one month of AW a year..
Facter: what, do you guys love this place so much that you'd miss it ?
Goober King: No, because once development stops, then interest wanes and the
community disappears
SW Chris: Yeah! :)
Facter: right
Syntax: Fac..yes
Facter: the community tends to die right ?
Goober King: You tell me, Fac... I've spent 5+ years here
Facter: then stop your bitching, keep supporting them for as long as you
feel you are morally able to, or financially able to, and see where it takes
you
Facter: because the only way its going to survive is by following their game
plan
Syntax: Yea I guess your right.
Facter: theres no question about that
Facter: what the hell choice do you guys have? its a business? ither support
them or dont, stay, ro leave - its pretty simple
SW Comit: they outa just cut staff....look at Motorola, a major
communication company. They had finical problems so they cut staff, you
didn't see them jacking the prices on their computer parts, they got too
much competition
Goober King: That's all well and good, but if I decide to play along, it
won't make much of a difference if nobody else does :P
Facter: comit
Syntax: yea i guess..
Goober King: They don't have that much of a staff to cut, Comit :P
Facter: read what you just said
SW Chris: It is also a way of life.
Facter: plese note, that your talking to someone that worked for them until
two or so month ago, and read the line you jsut wrote
Facter: ahem. hello. people. unemployed individual here.
Syntax: lol duh
SW Chris: Welcome to the No Spin Zone.
SW Comit: welp, dunno what to say about that...it happens
SW Chris: I think he was pointing out that they alread DID cut staff.
Facter: well yes, but if you guys think that all f this is sudden, jsut
review the past year or so and you'll see its not
Syntax: Guess we'll have to pay if we want the city.
Goober King: Smooth, Comit :P
Facter: ahem. well. yes, that was my point exactly.
SW Chris: Well I'm savin.
Syntax: *shrugs*
Syntax: same
Syntax: ugh but its like $18 a month in Canada :-((
Goober King: I'm renewing ASAP, so I don't have to pay until next year :)
SW Chris: ahh Syn... give Facter a break.
LilAlpha Phalpha: do they really need 5 programmers tho, werent they doing
fine with just roland?
Syntax: hehe I have until October...
SW Chris: He's been through that all night I bet.
Facter: but...I have faith in Rick, in all honesty. alot of times I didnt
agree with him, and sometimes I still dont..but if this is what he thinks he
can do, then I'll believe him. He saved this place from disappearing once
before, and I reckon he probablyd
SW Chris: August for me.
SW Comit: they got 5? wow didn't know that =P
Syntax: Well..HamFon, Roland, Nanodragon...
Facter: has enough lvoe..no, nto probably, he fukin adores this place and
this community, you have no idea - i reckon he can do it again
Syntax: err
Facter: five
Facter: hamfon, roland, shamus, nanodragon and grimm as contractor
SW Comit: what's a nanodragon? lol
Syntax: oh right
Facter: a very small dragon
Facter: :)
SW Comit: heh =P
Syntax: >_<
Goober King: You also gotta remember that everyone raised the same ruccus
back when they first introduced the $20/yr fee, and the community managed to
survive that too
Syntax: Would that be a lizard? :-D
SW Comit: Hey facter I thought you left AW cause you found a better job?
Facter: yep, it did - and, aftr thgat, it actually made money through
investment, and even went over the blackline for a short time til the market
died
SW Comit: I didn't follow up on the story well
Facter: no
SW Chris: Would the MMORPG comparison hold up here Facter? Subscribers to
those services pay around 10 bucks a month as well.
Facter: i left AW because I had other things in my life I wanted to do
Facter: it was a mutual compromise between all parties involved
SW Comit: mmm I thought that implied as another job
Facter: other things in life do not necessarily always mean a 9-5 job my
friend..no, im happily writing music, and doing scifi stories...and im about
to move over to London, and start exploring Europe for a while :)
SW Comit: mmm those MMORPGs are worth 10 a month, though..it must be, most
of them have millions of users O_O
SW Comit: well not most
SW Comit: lots...
Facter: chris, yes, that comparison could hold up
Syntax: Speaking of MMORPG's....
Facter: *waiting for his SoL CD to arrive*
Syntax: I hear Helbreath calling my name, lol
SW Comit: but I thought *you* left AW, they didn't lay you off...
Facter: mmmmm
Facter: its long story, and not really one that I think is up fer
discussion - lets just say that we all had to do things, and we parted on
good terms, and I enjoyed working there
SW Chris: ahhhh
SW Comit: np
Facter: but in all honesty, i think I rpefer now to just be one of you guys
:)
SW Chris: sounds good.
Goober King: hehe
SW Chris: Eep's not around to bug you either. ^_^
SW Comit: lol
Syntax: lol
SW Comit: if he did I'd bump warp him to my sfx hell
Facter: h, and i've been gettin in some damn good EQ in my time off
too..hehehe
SW Chris: I'm glad he's gone.
Facter: hehe
Facter: eep?
SW Chris: yes...
Goober King: He didn't leave AW entirely...
SW Chris: all he did was moan and complain.
Goober King: Or did he?
Facter: I actually think hes okay, always made things interesting
SW Chris: And if you saw that masochistic post about what he does in his
spare time on Usenet...
Facter: he just gave me the absolute shit is all :)
LilAlpha Phalpha: LOL yes he did
Facter: hay
Goober King: I thought he was just kicked out of the NGs...
SW Comit: Grace Mace would be a good addition to our conversation, too bad
he's not here =P
Syntax: lmao
SW Comit: *shakes head*
SW Chris: heh well don't worry. It was the exact same stuff he pulled in
the AW NGs.
Facter: hes a pudgy young guy with nothing but his computer for
companionship
SW Chris: :(
LilAlpha Phalpha: accually, all of eep's posts had a point, they werent just
complaints
Facter: hes gotta get his anger out soemhow :)
Facter: and
SW Comit: lol pudgy
Facter: hes quite intelligent
SW Chris: he's got a lot of it.
Facter: an idiot, but quite intelligent
Goober King: So smart, he's stupid :)
SW Comit: legless you
SW Chris: intelligence should have some mind to not take out his anger on
the defenseless. But that's another story.
Facter: thats not intelligence
Facter: thats wisdom
Facter: note I did not say he was wise, there is a huge difference :)
SW Chris: I figured the two went hand in hand.
Goober King: That's social intelligence... something that I find a lot of
people are lacking :P
SW Chris: :)
Facter: not at all !
SW Comit: >_<
Facter: wisdom and intelligence are two completly seperate beings
SW Comit: wisdsom is the intellegence of using/applying intellegence
Facter: they go hand in hand with *time* maybe, but its not a given thing
SW Comit: so now what?
SW Comit: ...
Facter: god, look at this world - if intelligence went with wisdom, no one
would of invented an atomic bomb, or they would of buried it forever :)
Goober King: Well, folks... I'm gonna head out... I have much to ponder...
SW Comit: just let fire burn itself out?
SW Chris: We wait. Pray. Continue on with our lives.
Facter: hahaha
Facter: gnite mate
Facter: good seein ya
SW Chris: nice seeing you too. :)
Goober King: You too man... don't be a stranger :)
Syntax: Yea im outta here too..
SW Chris: btw..
SW Comit: adious
SW Chris: if aw does go belly up..
Facter: yeh, i'll try not to..i just wanted a break n all honesty
SW Chris: you will tell us what those plans were right? :)
Syntax: Bye guys
Facter: too many questions and I Know Too Many Things I Want To Tell People
:)
Syntax: err, girls
Syntax: Sorry
Facter: hahahaha
Syntax: See ya later
Facter: yeh, l8r girls
SW Chris: I have a feeling that they'll pull through....
SW Comit: psstt Facter, tell me, does Enzo have a secret account that he
build on like a normal user? ;)
SW Comit: lol
SW Chris: It's like Luke and the Death Star run.
Goober King: heh Rather hard to have an NDA with a company that doesn't
exist :)
Facter: man
SW Chris: one torpedo and 5 seconds to go.
Facter: he owns the company, he can have as many accounts as he wants :)
SW Chris: The Force is with him.
Facter: true
Facter: but it does exist, and IU'm an honorable guy
Goober King: *nod* And I'm thankful for that
SW Comit: lol I had a dream I met Enzo in r/l. He looked like my principal
O_O I told him he was a bad builder and he got all mad
SW Chris: you have wierd dreams.
SW Comit: LOL
LilAlpha Phalpha: lol
Facter: eh, im a rough and crude bitch sometimes, but I do have honour :)
Goober King: heh
Facter: lol
Facter: yes
SW Comit: Enzo's secret user account = sirQus O_O
Facter: odd , ive dreamt about AW too many times
SW Chris: I only dream of AW when I'm absolutely sick of it and want to take
a break from it.
LilAlpha Phalpha: LOL
Facter: awrite, headin ta bed..take it easy guys
SW Chris: It's sad. but true. :)
SW Chris: goodnight.
SW Comit: buy facter
LilAlpha Phalpha: nite facter :)
SW Chris: please build here sometime! :D
SW Comit: lol chris
Facter: doint stress too much hay...hang in there, if it works, then yay !
if it doesnt, then we deal
Facter: l8zz
SW Chris: night.
SW Comit: *wonders if facter builders*
SW Comit: he's legless now =P
SW Comit: builds*
SW Chris: scotty missed and put him in the ground at waist level.
LilAlpha Phalpha: LOL
SW Chris: Beam me up
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Jan 5, 2002, 7:27am

You're right XP is super-fast, and can be customized for the "power-user" or
the "red brick guy". The only problem with XP is that it ruins the AW
graphics for some reason. They all become distorted. Other than that XP
works great, very stable.

LilAlpha Phalpha

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Jan 5, 2002, 7:01pm

well...I've tried 3 different cards. A S3 Savage4 32MB 2x AGP
A Nvidia Vanta LT 8MB 2xAGP
And a Diamond StealthIII S350 Xtreme 32MB 4x AGP

the graphics mess up on all 3 of them, what kind of card are you using?

Lil


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Jan 9, 2002, 9:09pm

I seriously doubt that rumor, becuase in space if there is noting to accel
you, you maintain constant speed. However, gravity affects 2 or more objetcs
no matter the distance. So, assuming the universe is a sphere, or even if it
isn't, gravity will eventually slow down the speed of expansion and one day
will bring it back into a singularity for the cycle to begin again. I read
in a library book that according to the red-shift (Doppler effect), the
universe has started to slow down. Scientists compare it to galaxies which
are closer, and show more current light, than to galaxies farther away, and
have older light(longer way to go), and have determined that the red-shift
in the colser galaxies is lest than that of the galaxies farther away. In
conclusion, this means expansion is slowing down, and one day in the
distant....distant future will turn to blue shift. The greater the
blue-shift, the faster the object is moving towards us. So, this latest
theory of yours dosent really add up...

LilAlpha Phalpha


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Jan 9, 2002, 10:33pm

Hmm, nothing in here I believe is true. The believe the Big Bang Theory,
that the universe started out as a single point, a singularity, at the
center of our universe it is exapnding still now, but the expansion is
slowing, and will eventually shrink. There is radiation at the center of the
universe left to support this theory Gravity has infinite distance, no
matter how minute... Check out this law of physics...A body continues in its
state of constant velocity unless it is acted upon by an external force. The
glalxies are in a constant state of motion out-wards, and the external force
is gravity. About your bowl theory, that is only possible if objects have an
orbit, and to have an orbit there would have to be an object in the middle
with great enough gravity to hold it in orbit, dont get me wrong tho, the
gravity would still have an effect on objects even if they were moving too
fast to enter orbit. So, the universe isnt like marbles in a bowl, its more
like blowing up a balloon, it's expanding in all directions. Also, as they
are expanding, we only see red-shift, that means all the galaxies are moving
away from eachother, getting farther apart... but the speed at witch they
are moving apart is slowing down, due to gravity, the the Doppler effect can
prove that.

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Jan 9, 2002, 11:11pm

>
> theory
>
> Have you known anyone to center of the universe? You can't say there is
> unless we've been there to measure it. It's theorized that there's some
> left.

No but we can dectect it with our powerful telescopes....
>
>
> Really? Can you feel the gravity of my hands grasping your throat? :)
It's
> proportional to the mass of the object.

Yes it is proportional to the mass of the object, you hands to exert a force
on me, but it is so minute that I can't feel it at all...
>
> velocity unless it is acted upon by an external force.
>
> Yes but it's proportional to the mass of the object that's acting on it
plus
> the distance away, and sometimes the polarity of the objects, magnetic
> fields are stronger then gravity.

Do you really think the black holes at the center of galaxies, if there are
black holes at the center, push us away from everything else?
>
external
> force
> is gravity.
>
> If that were true, according to you they'd be moving towards each other..
> not outward and away.

GRRRRR. OVER TIME the force exerted by gravity is causing the slow-down of
the expansion, the change from red-shift to blueshift... Kinda like when you
up in the air and running in AW, it takes you a little time to slow down and
stop then go backward, maybe a second in AW, but trillions of years in the
universe...
>
> and to have an orbit there would have to be an object in the middle with
> great enough gravity to hold it in orbit, dont get me wrong tho, the
gravity
> would still have an effect on objects even if they were moving too fast to
> enter orbit.
>
> No, objects can move without an orbit around something. That's how things
> in space can move with nothing to propel against.

Read what i read again and you will see thats not what i meant.... OBJECTS
IN ORBIT HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THIER ORBIT TO HOLD THEM IN
ORBIT...
>
> balloon,
> it's expanding in all directions.
>
> Yes but I was using the bowl as an example of an expanding universe. As
the
> universe expands, the matter inside it expands as well.

well the marbles in the bowl in no way can represent the expanding of the
universe becuase the galaxies arent going around in a circle or even a
spiral, so there would be no random movement like you show in the bowl, the
galaxies are moving in a straight line... outwards, untill gravity pulls
them back in.
>
> galaxies are moving away from eachother, getting farther apart... but the
> speed at witch they are moving apart is slowing down, due to gravity, the
> the Doppler effect can prove that.
>
> No, it's slowing down because other things are acting upon them. Gravity
> isn't the only force in our universe. There's magnetic fields, black
holes,
> white holes, worm holes, other singularities, etc. Although gravity is
> extremely strong, it's all dependent on the mass of the object and the
> distance between the objects. That's why black holes can suck in light,
> they have an extremely dense mass-singularity. As galaxies get closer,
> because they have so much mass, they act upon each other and get closer.
> But this doesn't mean the universe is collapsing just yet.

Did i say the universe was collapsing yet? magnetic fields have a finite
reach... any internal force cant excert a force externally, kinda like
trying to lift a chair without touching the ground while your standing on
it... gravity is an external force, it is infinite in distance so, the
galaxy at the otherside of this universe is also exerting a force on me, tho
it is probably even more minute than your hands.
>
> --Bowen--
>
>
>

Jan 10, 2002, 1:24am

>
> LoL calm down with the shouting.
>
>
> No telescope is that powerful, not even hubble, nor our radio telescope
> arrays.

Did you look that up, or are you just assuming?
>
> force
>
> So then if I were to hold it there for a long time I could crush your
neck.
> Since it's constant.

No, read what i said again....
>
> constant
it
> are
>
> There's more then black holes at the center, there's proto-suns, and
there's
> white holes as well. Proto-suns emit energy at such a high rate it pushes
> mass away. So do white holes.

They arn't powerful enought to push the stars out of orbit, what makes you
think they could move galaxies?
>
> other..
>
>
of
> you
> and
the
>
> Gravity? No, that's acceleration.

Alright, how about this? you throw a ball straight up, it comes back
down....
>
> orbit,
with
fast
> to
> things
OBJECTS
THEM
> IN
>
> I never said the marbles were orbitting originally ;). I just implied
they
> were moving in space. Perhaps they're commets and they've flow by
numerous
> solar systems. In the middle of their orbit? No they can be anywhere to
> propel them in some direction.. if the mass is greater then that of the
> object, but not too strong, then it'll orbit. There's solar systems with
2
> suns.. how do you think they orbit? Complete circular path? More like a
> figure 8 ;)
>

since when were we talking about comet's and binary systems?

up
> a
As
the
> the
>
> LoL yes galaxies do rotate. Our solar system is rotating around a galaxy
> that theoretically has a small proto-sun in the middle. I never said what
> the marbles represented though. Galaxies can move in more then spirals..
> the move on all 3 of spaces' axes.

Duh i know galaxies rotate. When i said spirals, i meant thier course
trajectory, as in where a galaxy as a whole is going...
Marbles in a bowl are a bad example...
>
the
> the
> the
> Gravity
is
light,
closer,
closer.
on
> tho
>
> You said they were moving closer together which implied they were
> collapsing. Magnetic fields have as finite a reach as gravity does, it's
> based on the charge of the object, like gravity is based on mass. An
> internal force can exert external forces.. it's called an explosion :).
> Lifting the chair is possible while you're standing on it, but you can't
> keep it up. That has to do with the Earth's gravity rather then the
gravity
> of the two objects. Gravity is both internal and external. I'm exerting
> it, and you're exerting it, yours acts on me, mine acts on you. :) LoL
> does this have anything to do with free objects anymore? :)

Yeah, but our mass is also exerting force on the galaxies on the otherside
of the universe...
>
> --Bowen--
>
>
>

Jan 11, 2002, 1:00am

LOL, i can't help it if astronomy is my favorite subject....

LilAlpha Phalpha


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